That's because you don't know.Even he doesn't know 🤔
That's because you don't know.Even he doesn't know 🤔
Thats simply not true. Carry onThat you should use the valve spring's that are designed for your camshaft and not the ones that come with the cylinder heads you buy.
A well known engine builder said to always use spring's specifically designed for the cam used. As most cylinder heads have springs that are a one size fits all approach, open/close pressure, seat pressure and correct valve spring height are all important parts of proper cam performance and life of the cam.Thats simply not true. Carry on
You simply dont know, what you dont know.A well known engine builder said to always use spring's specifically designed for the cam used. As most cylinder heads have springs that are a one size fits all approach, open/close pressure, seat pressure and correct valve spring height are all important parts of proper cam performance and life of the cam.
All woody does is build engines soooooA well known engine builder said to always use spring's specifically designed for the cam used. As most cylinder heads have springs that are a one size fits all approach, open/close pressure, seat pressure and correct valve spring height are all important parts of proper cam performance and life of the cam.
Me neither. I was of the impression the springs should match the cam based on lift, ramp rates, recommended open and closed seat etc. But I imagine there must be different criteria that different engine builders use. Is it possible to have too stiff of a spring?You simply dont know, what you dont know.
I will use the 2 heads that have run away with the hydraulic roller market, everyone else is in the basement for 90% of the hyd roller customer. Afr with an 8019 and any 11R head. The springs used on those 2 heads will cover 90% of the consumer base with ease. Consumers which make up the vast majority of buyers from places like summit, have no idea about ramp rates, so thats moot. Max lift capability, install height, seat pressure and open pressure are all published for those 2 heads. I will venture an educated guess that 99% of people buying those 2 heads from summit, ebay etc.. are not changing springs. If this was an issue you would have heard about it LONG time ago. The springs on those 2 heads will cover 95% of hyd roller users on this forum. That is one hell of a big box that afr and tfs have managed to create.Me neither. I was of the impression the springs should match the cam based on lift, ramp rates, recommended open and closed seat etc. But I imagine there must be different criteria that different engine builders use. Is it possible to have too stiff of a spring?
Wrong, I know for a fact that stock valve spring's can not be used with a performance cam, and that valve spring's have to have correct install height. You think that spring's that come with assembled heads that are rated up to a .650 lift cam are good for a small cam. There's even spring's that can be used solely for cam break in. Just because I don't have a 9 second car doesn't mean that I don't have some knowledge about engines.You simply dont know, what you dont know.
It's possible to have valve spring's that are to stiff for the cam used. The spring's should always be checked for correct install height, pressure etc. I've seen to many people wipe out their cams because of using spring's as is. A 1.3 rocker arm ratio is something else that people use for cam break in, why? Spring pressure controls the liftersYou simply dont know, what you dont know.
Run performance spring's on a stock cam and see what happensI deciphered this as such
No what cylinder heads that people run, they should never run the springs that come on the cylinder heads they buy.
No matter what cylinder heads that people run, they should NEVER run the springs that come on the cylinders heads they buy.
You are wrong, flat out wrong, mind numbingly wrong. Carry on with the silliness.
Stop typing. Go back to telling us how you dont want a Siamese bore block, that was a hoot.It's possible to have valve spring's that are to stiff for the cam used. The spring's should always be checked for correct install height, pressure etc. I've seen to many people wipe out their cams because of using spring's as is. A 1.3 rocker arm ratio is something else that people use for cam break in, why? Spring pressure controls the lifters
I realize that I was to much in my old ways. I'm going to pay attention to what Woody and others have to say and be more thoughtful of how I ask questions. I'm reading over what you just said and it makes sense that I've been making myself look real stupid.If you're here arguing with Woody about such things as valve springs, that would be the best.
Why ask advice when you won't listen to one of the most knowledgeable Windsor engine builders in the country? It's pathetic to watch someone make such a colossal fool of one's self, how can you expect anyone to take you seriously? Sorry if I sound harsh, sometimes truth hurts.
Jay
I bought one at the San Leandro swap meet for $10.00 back in 1973 (heavy dough on a sailor's pay)Never heard of the Weind Colt 500. Are they still made?
I think you are thinking of another thread. The OP on this thread, actually knows nothing.Since a bunch of off topic content was deleted from this thread, I do believe that a comment Mark made points to the probability that this OP was purposely screwing with us. Just thought I'd throw that out if someone happens across this thread without "the rest of the story". Yep, fell for it like a Crappie taking a minnow, all in good fun though.
Jay
I'm not thinking about another thread, Bubba is a pretty good actor though, he got Woody wound up pretty good. Oh wait, I probably just dreamed it all, LOL. Mark mentioned something like a fuel altered with a bad attitude, he clearly knows who this is.I think you are thinking of another thread. The OP on this thread, actually knows nothing.
Since a bunch of off topic content was deleted from this thread, I do believe that a comment Mark made points to the probability that this OP was purposely screwing with us. Just thought I'd throw that out if someone happens across this thread without "the rest of the story". Yep, fell for it like a Crappie taking a minnow, all in good fun though.
Jay
I'm glad that it did get deleted.Since a bunch of off topic content was deleted from this thread, I do believe that a comment Mark made points to the probability that this OP was purposely screwing with us. Just thought I'd throw that out if someone happens across this thread without "the rest of the story". Yep, fell for it like a Crappie taking a minnow, all in good fun though.
Jay