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Yeah I imagine they are. If you can find someone that even knows how to build one.
How about a nice CAFE motorcycle engine? Now that would be a conversation starter.
 

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I’ve ID’d a couple as candidates Richard. Yamaha Vmax - new one is 1600cc V4. About 200hp, 110 lb-ft, 10k rpm potential and very small, lightweight. Be cool to have that sequential dogbox in a car. Perhaps a better candidate is Triumph’s new triple. 2.5L (not a typo), 160Hp, 180 lb-ft; peak power at 5800; torque at 3800 —- very carlike. Also light, compact. Both EFI.

Problem - most motorcycle engines rotate the opposite way from a car engine. It can be overcome, but not easily.
 

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I’ve ID’d a couple as candidates Richard. Yamaha Vmax - new one is 1600cc V4. About 200hp, 110 lb-ft, 10k rpm potential and very small, lightweight. Be cool to have that sequential dogbox in a car. Perhaps a better candidate is Triumph’s new triple. 2.5L (not a typo), 160Hp, 180 lb-ft; peak power at 5800; torque at 3800 —- very carlike. Also light, compact. Both EFI.

Problem - most motorcycle engines rotate the opposite way from a car engine. It can be overcome, but not easily.
There are a number of swaps out there on geo's with the sequential gearbox. Of course, you have to make other plans for reverse unless the donor also has reverse. Most of the geo's I've seen with motorcycle motors are actually running a chain drive back to a solid rear axle. Yeah, it looks as bad as it sounds. For entertainment, google geo hayabusa or gsxr.

I never knew that about motorcycles rotating in reverse compared to cars. Why is that?

*edit, I googled and see it has to do with helping keep the front end on the ground. Still trying to wrap my head around that one, guess I need to do some research.
 

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Oh wait, now I understand. The motors are mounted sideways.
 

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Someone decided to put kick start levers on the right and so the clutch/drive/driveshafts went on the left. That dictates engine rotation direction. Many of the bigger bikes have a reverse - but that’s another potential obstacle.
 

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You know, ktm bikes kick start on left and sprocket is in right. Wouldn’t that fix your rotation issue?

at least they used to, not sure if still the case or not. And they make some nice big thumper four strokes, used in Paris to Dakar rallies for years.
 

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I'm sure there are exceptions -- KTM relatively new to the bike game compared to those makes that go way back. I probably did the same thing you did - I searched the question when I first realized most of the engines I was interested in had a rotation problem. I believe you about KTM - every bike I've ever kick started (almost all Japanese) kicked on the right. But, it matters not -- it's a challenge that would have to be solved. A car motor is likely gonna be a better mousetrap.
 

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Doh - I equated with kickstart on the left as rotation the opposite direction. The motors still rotate the same direction so their centrifugal force helps keeps a wheelie from happening. So, it doesn't have anything to do with kick start and everything to do with crank rotation. If the motors were mounted like they are in a car, every time you revved the motor it would try to pull you toward the side the motor rotates to, like in a car. Can you imagine that? LOL

Now, back to the problem at hand.

I had also thought about laying a nice four cylinder on it's side and dry sumping as well. But lots of issues with going that route.

Maybe it's time to go tube chassis on the front end? That would give all kinds of sideways room to drop a Subaru motor in there. 🙃

How about the modern small CID eco boost motors that were available in the Fiesta? 1.3 liter and small turbo. Granted, would have to work out front wheel drive issue though.

Is it possible to space the crossmember down and gain enough clearance for a taller motor? Then lower the front suspension a bit. You'd lose some ground clearance but likely not going off road anyway.
 

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It might be time to dust off your hood scoop building skills. Or even a full molded hood. Maybe a power bulge in just the right spot to clear and then back down to stock in the rear. Maybe just enough to make it look "stockish".
 

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When you start moving the crossmember relative to the body - you introduce alternative suspension, roll center and steering geometry issues. Like to stay away from that if I can. It would be better to cut/lower just the section under the pan. I think if the designers could help manage wheelies by crank direction, then they did. But, there are LOTS of different engine configurations in motorcycles -- and many of them mounted where the crank is oriented differently. BMW, Moto Guzzi, Ariel off the top of my head. Maybe some of those would work! Chuckling....

And it makes sense - Mr. Newton's 'equal and opposite reaction' - you'd want the crank rotating CCW when viewed from the right side assuming the crank is perpendicular to the bike axis. Backwards from a car engine. I'd read somewhere that Smokey Yunick experimented with CCW V8 engine rotation in Nascar applications for ovals - help shift some weight from the outside to the inside to help tires more equally manage grip.
 

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Some dirt circle track racers do reverse rotation motors. They will lift the right front wheel in a left hand circle.
 

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If you've ever sat on a BMW motorcycle boxer or longitudinal 3 or 4 cal and twisted the throttle - the whole bike rocks to the right. Feels weird.
 
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Meanwhile, up till 100 last night doing classwork. This semester with three classes = not fun.
 
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Hang in there...this too shall pass. And it will be worth it. We’re proud of you!
 

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Bob and I want to know if you could just drop out of school and finish our window stickers?

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Just grinning at you -- if we get ours when you get your diploma, that would be just fine.
 

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:ROFLMAO: I’ve actually got Bob’s done. Been fine tuning details. Yours will be next. Kind of working it in as “time filler”. Which is why it’s taking so long.


So, I test drove a Mach E.

Impressions: very peppy. Low road noise. Very nice interior. Seats comfy. Easy to see out. Glass roof was nice. Monstrous infotainment screen, like 17” in size give or take. Fairly intuitive to get in and drive. Rotating knob for drive functions. Different driving modes.

If they had a gas version I’d halfway consider one. Wife really liked it.

I informed her I can’t get her to plug her phone in, can’t imagine getting her used to plugging car in.

There’s literally one plug in station in my town. At the Ford dealer. I didn’t even ask how all that works.
 

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I’m responsible for charging my wife’s phone and putting gas in her car. Wimp.
 

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Thanks Michael, and that is sad. The people we rely on to be honest with us and do the right thing, they are not. I've said many times this is just a type of flu, because the symptoms are the same, plus the low death rate. Now it looks more and more like everything has been exaggerated, or lied about.

It's one thing to exaggerate data to gain extra government funding, that is just unethical and criminal. But the result on society has been devastating economically and emotionally. The vast number of Covid 19 believers is tragic, they are blind to the damage of socialism, and they don't mind wearing masks etc. Yet they will passionately argue everywhere like on forums, that their experts are right, and that they care about us.
 
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